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Al-Qaeda talking truce with US
Published on January 19, 2006 By singrdave In War on Terror
Here's an unexpected turn of events. He claims that despite al-Qaeda's preparations for fresh US attacks, he wants to sue for peace. He claims that he's got several projects underway and the only way we can prevent them from happening is to accede to bin Laden's demands. He claims that he doesn't want to fight any more, but can we take it at face value?

From Yahoo News:
Osama bin Laden warned that al Qaeda was preparing new attacks inside the United States, but said the group was open to a conditional truce with Americans, according to an audio tape attributed to him on Thursday.



"The operations are under preparation and you will see them in your houses as soon as they are complete, God willing," said the speaker on the audio tape, who sounded like bin Laden.

In the tape, broadcast by al Jazeera television, bin Laden said al Qaeda was willing to respond to public U.S. opinion in favor of withdrawing troops from Iraq.

"We have no objection to responding to this with a long term truce based on fair conditions."

It was not immediately known when the tape was recorded. A U.S. counterterrorism official said U.S. intelligence was assessing the tape in an effort to determine its authenticity.

Bin Laden issued an audio tape in April 2004 in which he also offered a truce -- on that occasion to Europe, but not to the United States. Analysts saw the move at the time as an attempt to drive a wedge between the United States and its allies and to scare wavering coalition members out of Iraq.

Bin Laden's last audio tape was in December 2004. The interval between then and now was by far his longest public silence since the September 11 attacks on the United States in 2001.


Wow, what a shocker. It's a surprising turn of events and an intriguing offer. But not believable. "Death to Americans" has been their rallying cry for so long. Why is it suddenly "live and let live"?

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on Jan 19, 2006
Hey, if Yasir Arafat can go from baby killer to statesman, so can Osama, right?


Not sure Osama would like all those paparazzis following him around. Besides, he doesn't seem to be a man of politics, more like a movie star.

Let's put him up for the 2020 Nobel Peace Prize, shall we?


NO wait, first we will have him as a guest star on American Idol the day his niece debuts for a chance to go to Hollywood (or where ever they take the runner ups) and then we can put him up for the Nobel Peace Prize.

For now he is nominated, by his followers, for the US must be NowhereI want them in Pieces I always have a surPrise.
on Jan 19, 2006

yall are really making too much of this tape.

first of all, it's audio only (which says a lot--it aint like al quaeda shies away from video).


It may be audio only. But the experts have "confirmed" that it is indeed Osama on the tape.

Resident Troll, huh? Hang on ya'll ain't seen nothing yet!
on Jan 19, 2006
That would be a very Machiavellian way to get a Nobel:

Start a war on 9/11, and then offer your own peace five years later.


I dont like the clown. I detest him! But I never said he was stupid! (I leave that for the democrat leadership). Hey! They gave Carter one! For what? Talking to Kim Jung il!
on Jan 20, 2006
Besides, the only people who will pretend to take this overture seriously will be partisans who see a political advantage to do so.


exactly my point.
on Jan 20, 2006
speaking of the truly deluded. time for your meds dog.


Are you going to tell me the leftists of the world would rather fight osama than have a "truce"?
on Jan 20, 2006
Are you going to tell me the leftists of the world would rather fight osama than have a "truce"?


Are you going to sit there and tell a lefty (kingbee) what the left would do? I'm with Kingbee on this one. The left isn't going to buy this any more than the right. Come on. I realize that it's fun to bash the other side repeatedly, but when you fail to give them any credit at all, the entire debate is pointless.

I hate to see what bin Laden means by "fair conditions"--I'm sure they wouldn't be verified by an independent international observer.

Besides, we aren't going to negotiate a truce with a tape. Bin Laden will have to present himself for negotiations if he is really serious, which I have no doubt that he is not.
on Jan 20, 2006
Are you going to sit there and tell a lefty (kingbee) what the left would do? I'm with Kingbee on this one. The left isn't going to buy this any more than the right. Come on. I realize that it's fun to bash the other side repeatedly, but when you fail to give them any credit at all, the entire debate is pointless.


Why should I give the left any credit? They give people like osama and zawahiri their talking points.
on Jan 20, 2006
IDog:
Are you going to tell me the leftists of the world would rather fight osama than have a "truce"?

I think those leftists in our Congress see that public opinion prevents them from expressing their true feelings. Guaranteed career-killer if they show their true colors against fighting and killing, especially against those who perpetrated 9/11.

Stutefish:
So let me get this straight: he wants a truce, so that we can finish rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan in peace, and he can finish his preparations for his next big set-piece terrorist massacre in peace.

Yes, it appears that way. He wants us to stop killing his men so they can rally and prepare for their next big event, within the US...

Yeah, like that's gonna happen.
This is a hollow statement at best. As ShadowWar pointed out in his featured article, it's easy to see through his rhetoric and figure out what he's really saying.
Because we all know what a mass murderer and terrorist mastermind is really thinking. Always scheming, always planning, always trying to weasel the advantage from an unsuspecting West. He assumes we're decadent and idolatrous, therefore we won't see what he's really up to.
on Jan 20, 2006
shadesofgrey:
(Your post came in while I was typing my own, or I would have addressed them all together.)
The left isn't going to buy this any more than the right. Come on. I realize that it's fun to bash the other side repeatedly, but when you fail to give them any credit at all, the entire debate is pointless.

I give the Dems credit for seeing how to seize political advantage out of this. And I really think bin Laden does, too. He can create discord in the US Government by offering a truce... any truce. Then the bickering continues anew.
on Jan 20, 2006
and somebody in JU accused me of imagining some ficticious use of"propaganda" by the bacteria. ;~D


if by 'somebody' you mean me, you apparently misunderstood the point i was trying to make. al quaeda apparently pumps out plenty of propaganda but...

okay.

i was gonna go into the part about how no westerner capable of going to the corner alone without a name and address written on a lil note pinned to his or her chest was at risk of being influenced by messages from sheik bin laden or his underlings--thus rendering it effectively inneffectual on our side of the line.

in fact, one need look no further than the comments on this thread to see i was mistaken. no question but osama's latest lunacy resonates with several of those who posted replies.

interestingly enuff, they share an affinity for the truth as pitched by the tentshow barkers over to newsmax and worldweeklynewsdotcom.

this is just a hunch (as is so often the case recently) but perhaps attending madrasas and overexposure to pandering pundit sites damage or destroy that part of the brain responsible for preventing terminal gullibility?

on Jan 20, 2006
Why should I give the left any credit? They give people like osama and zawahiri their talking points.


If you really believe this, you are far more delusional than I thought.

I give the Dems credit for seeing how to seize political advantage out of this. And I really think bin Laden does, too. He can create discord in the US Government by offering a truce... any truce. Then the bickering continues anew.


Have I missed the Dems that have come out in support of a truce?
on Jan 20, 2006
Have I missed the Dems that have come out in support of a truce?

Give it time, my friend... give it time.
on Jan 20, 2006
Are you going to tell me the leftists of the world would rather fight osama than have a "truce"?


1. one of the most infuriating aspects of the invasion of iraq is the way it focused our energy and efforts away from bin laden and al zawahiri. i had no problem with the war in afghanistan and i'd strongly support redeploying troops there in force with orders to eliminate the resurging taliban and capture or kill bin laden and zawahiri. of those i know personally who oppose the war in iraq, each and every one believes we made a very serious mistake by leaving afghanistan too quickly and while bin laden was still free.

2. as recently as last summer, cia director strongly hinted he knew where bin laden was hiding. asked if he was gonna act on that knowledge, goss said he didn't wanna step on anyone's toes.

based on goss' statements (which strangely and sadly seem to echo musharref's lack of enthusiasm for confronting bin laden), i think you've got it backwards.

if bush, cheney, rumsfeld, etc were such great warriors (or more than mediocre warriors for that matter) and they really wanted to get bin laden, it would already be in the past.
on Jan 20, 2006
Guaranteed career-killer if they show their true colors against fighting and killing, especially against those who perpetrated 9/11


i see you're suffering from that madrasas/newsmax syndrome too.

until we see bush, cheney, rumsfeld and the rest of the gang get serious about pacifying afghanistan and denying bin laden refuge in pakistan, i'm much more skeptical and concerned about their true colors. after all, they're the ones at the controls.
on Jan 20, 2006
2. as recently as last summer, cia director strongly hinted he knew where bin laden was hiding. asked if he was gonna act on that knowledge, goss said he didn't wanna step on anyone's toes.

Strongly suggested? Porter Goss came out and said that he knew where bin Laden was, in that many words. And then smugly asked the interviewer for the next question. I found that appalling, since the next question ought to have been, "Well, what are you doing about it then?
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