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Al-Qaeda talking truce with US
Published on January 19, 2006 By singrdave In War on Terror
Here's an unexpected turn of events. He claims that despite al-Qaeda's preparations for fresh US attacks, he wants to sue for peace. He claims that he's got several projects underway and the only way we can prevent them from happening is to accede to bin Laden's demands. He claims that he doesn't want to fight any more, but can we take it at face value?

From Yahoo News:
Osama bin Laden warned that al Qaeda was preparing new attacks inside the United States, but said the group was open to a conditional truce with Americans, according to an audio tape attributed to him on Thursday.



"The operations are under preparation and you will see them in your houses as soon as they are complete, God willing," said the speaker on the audio tape, who sounded like bin Laden.

In the tape, broadcast by al Jazeera television, bin Laden said al Qaeda was willing to respond to public U.S. opinion in favor of withdrawing troops from Iraq.

"We have no objection to responding to this with a long term truce based on fair conditions."

It was not immediately known when the tape was recorded. A U.S. counterterrorism official said U.S. intelligence was assessing the tape in an effort to determine its authenticity.

Bin Laden issued an audio tape in April 2004 in which he also offered a truce -- on that occasion to Europe, but not to the United States. Analysts saw the move at the time as an attempt to drive a wedge between the United States and its allies and to scare wavering coalition members out of Iraq.

Bin Laden's last audio tape was in December 2004. The interval between then and now was by far his longest public silence since the September 11 attacks on the United States in 2001.


Wow, what a shocker. It's a surprising turn of events and an intriguing offer. But not believable. "Death to Americans" has been their rallying cry for so long. Why is it suddenly "live and let live"?

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on Jan 19, 2006
forum bump to get the word out!
on Jan 19, 2006
Liberals say.....let's go for the truce.

It worked for Spain, right?
on Jan 19, 2006
Why is it suddenly "live and let live"?


Heh, every fight I've ever been in you can tell your winning when the other guy says "let's call it square and be friends." Sounds like they can see their on the ropes to me...
on Jan 19, 2006
I think he thinks he can trick us. Wasn't Al Qaeda's whole call to war against us that they would force all to convert to Islam or die? Hmm, I don't imagine they changed their minds on that. Coming from the "I want to learn how to fly and not land" people, I don't trust a thing they say except when they say "death to all Americans".
on Jan 19, 2006
Heh, every fight I've ever been in you can tell your winning when the other guy says "let's call it square and be friends." Sounds like they can see their on the ropes to me...

This is what I'm wary about: what changed? Are we actually winning, despite the media's attempts to downplay successes and victories? Are our precision-guided munitions hitting with precision?

Or is this an attempt to play to anti-war leanings within the United States? Play up to our weaknesses rather than conquer our strengths...
on Jan 19, 2006
I think it is both singrdave. The former due to the latter.
on Jan 19, 2006
Tell him that American troops will stay in Iraq as long as Iraqis want American troops to stay, perhaps longer, but not shorter.

Propose that he withdraw HIS troops, which the Iraqis do not want anyway.

on Jan 19, 2006
Bin Laden made a similar offer to Europe in 2004. He doesn't want peace, he knows it will be rejected, as the Europeans did.

Its a propaganda move, if more attacks happen, they will say 'Well we offered a truce and you turned us down... WARMONGERS!'

Its all bollocks.
on Jan 19, 2006

they will say 'Well we offered a truce and you turned us down... WARMONGERS!'


I hope the US replies with a similar offer.

Terms:

1. Stop killing Muslims.

2. Stop killing non-Muslims.

3. Withdraw your troops from Iraq.

4. Withdraw your troops from Afghanistan.

And while it is diplomatically impossible, I would love them to add:

5. We have no problems with your troops being in Saudi Arabia and have withdrawn our own troops as you requested.
on Jan 19, 2006
Useless trivia:

1. In German "bin" means "am" (as in "I am") and "Laden" means "shop". "Bin Laden" sounds like a foreigner saying "I went to the shop". In fact, a Turkish-German comedian made that joke shortly after the attacks.

2. In most European languages the name "Osama bin Laden" sounds quite funny, especially considering that very few boys' names end on "a". It remains a mystery why the bearer of that name would actually actively try to be on the news all the time.
on Jan 19, 2006
3. Withdraw your troops from Iraq.

4. Withdraw your troops from Afghanistan.

How about "Withdraw your troops from Western nations"? I, for one, would love to have a sleeper-cell-free West.
on Jan 19, 2006

How about "Withdraw your troops from Western nations"?


Not sarcastic enough.
on Jan 19, 2006
I see it as what Shovel does.  They are losing (after all, a soldier can kill many terrorists, but a suicide bomber is only good for one bang).  But Andrew has an interesting counter proposal!  He would reject it of course, but it would show his duplicitous ways.
on Jan 19, 2006
Osama can kiss my "All-American" you know what! I would just as soon see his house burnt to the ground with him in it!
on Jan 19, 2006
If the peace offer is genuine (it isn't), it would mean that attacking Afghanistan and Iraq were both phenomenal successes for our side.

Al-Qaeda must have noticed something, otherwise they would not have waited until now to make the proposal.

The question is, what have they noticed?
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