Just imagine if a republican said anything like this. The media would be going crazy, but since it's Hillary (a democrat) they get the usual race pass.

It's good to see that Democrats believe that being a plantation owner is a bad thing. It's a nice change.

What I find worrying is that Democrats still oppose a war if its purpose is to free people from slavery.

I have been watching and listening to Larry Sabato for about 20 years now (he was always doing local elections).  Now he seems to have been noticed by the wider media, so I guess he is going national.  He has always been a striaght shooter, and I could not tell you if he is conservative or liberal based upon his political analysis.

But you got to love his sarcasm and sense of humor!

Guy:

I have been watching and listening to Larry Sabato for about 20 years now... I could not tell you if he is conservative or liberal based upon his political analysis.

He is a regular FOX News contributor, but that should not belie his political leanings. He seems to be a voice of truth, especially for FOX.

But you got to love his sarcasm and sense of humor!

Yes, at least she didn't mention Hitler, though I'm sure she was tempted.

Leauki/Andrew:

It's good to see that Democrats believe that being a plantation owner is a bad thing. It's a nice change.

Considering the welfare state that liberals and Dems support, I would liken Democrats to the slave plantation owners. By keeping their constituents in political and economic shackles, effectively buying their votes by threatening them that their Republican opponents would cut off their benefits...

Come on, girl the woman a break. No really break her. I always said that someday soon a woman would be President, by please not her.

Hillary will never make it to be President. She pisses off too many people on both sides. She is transparent in her attempts to pander to everyone and noone is buying it.

Hillary will never make it to be President. She pisses off too many people on both sides. She is transparent in her attempts to pander to everyone and noone is buying it.

I do agree with you, but I do believe she will be the parties nominee. Which doesn't say much for the democrats.

I will be happy to see her as the dems nominee. It will only make a republican victory that much easier.

What I find worrying is that Democrats still oppose a war if its purpose is to free people from slavery.

I doubt the dems have even given that any thought at all.

Democrats will never win back the Presidency until they drop the "blame America", and the loons that make up the parties base.

I will be happy to see her as the dems nominee. It will only make a republican victory that much easier.

I guess it does depend on who the republicans pick to run but Hillary is bound to divide the democrats enough to make it an easy win for the republicans.

She is transparent in her attempts to pander to everyone and noone is buying it.

---Jilluser

But it worked so well for her hubby.

Of course, on 9/11 we finally saw, naked and unvarnished, what those eight years of his bobbing and weaving to keep his numbers up did for us.

Hillary is bound to divide the democrats enough to make it an easy win for the republicans.

What this story tells me is that it's not the Republicans and the President that have created the divide we have in this country!

It is Democrats' rants that create divisiveness. They seemed to be hell-bent on destroying President Bush and by using the MSM to spread their contempt for President Bush and the Administration. I for one give them kudos: they have done a great job of widening the rift in this country.

Every chance Dems get, they slam the president... even if they have no ideas on how to run things better. They constantly attack President Bush on the War even though there are plenty of positive things happening in Iraq. They say they want us to succeed in Iraq, but everything that comes out of their mouths is cowardly and concessionary.

Because of the media's constant berating of the administration, it is no wonder that so people in this country have a negative opinion of the war in Iraq and they think things are going so badly. It is because the Democrats and MSM are so set on spinning everything negative just to embarrass President Bush, VP Cheney and Sec. Rumsfeld that they can’t see the truth.

Hillary's inflammatory and irresponsible remarks are just a symptom of a larger problem, IMHO.

Too much is being read into her remarks. She ignored history. In fact the REPUBLICANS were the party of Emancipation not DEmocrats. If you study the Democrats in Dixie many of them hhaf extremely embarassing associations.

Too much is being read into her remarks.

I really disagree, Bahu. In America, the spectre of slavery is present. We are still very sensitive to issues of race, particularly because we've had it ingrained into our skulls for so long. We live with Affirmative Action, which (depending on who is making the comment) either props the African-Americans up educationally, socially, and employment-wise; or it brings the whole "level playing field" crashing down by giving one group more clout and power when it comes to college acceptance, hiring, promotions, etc.

In addition, the reaction from the apologists has shown that Dems aren't really that bothered by this statement. But just a year or two ago, the Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott was forced out of his office for implying off-handedly that a certain ex-Segregationist Senator should've been President. It was during a celebration for Sen. Strom Thurmond (who had significantly changed his politics in the intervening 30+ years), and Sen. Lott was merely trying to honor his achievements. His remark was unintentionally offensive to some, but it was at worst a gaffe. However, he was drummed out of party leadership by the uproar from the Democrats (among other groups), who demanded his resignation on the basis that, even if it was unintentional, it was proof that he really had racist tendencies at heart.

So every time a politician or public official gets up and mentions the "peculiar institution", it is calculated and it is divisive. With the current social climate, especially with talk of reparations to descendants of ex-slaves, this talk is irresponsible. Hillary's comments are over the top, and to take umbrage with them is totally appropriate.

Oh, here come the apologists:
Welcome to the discussion, Sen Barack Obama.

Sen. Barack Obama and other black Democrats are defending Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's description of the House of Representatives as a "plantation." First lady Laura Bush says Clinton's remark was "ridiculous."

Clinton, D-N.Y., a potential presidential candidate for 2008, did not retreat from the "plantation" remark, telling reporters the term accurately describes the "top-down" way the GOP runs Congress.

Obama said Wednesday he felt her choice of words referred to a "consolidation of power" in Washington that squeezes out the voters.

The Illinois senator told CNN's "American Morning" he believed that Clinton was merely expressing concern that special interests play such a large role in writing legislation that "the ordinary voter and even members of Congress who aren't in the majority party don't have much input."

"There's been a consolidation of power by the Republican Congress and this White House in which, if you are the ordinary voter, you don't have access," Obama said. "That should be a source of concern for all of us."

That is not what Sen. Clinton said! If it's about context, then let's examine the context. She did not mention anything about the "consolidation of power" in the House where "ordinary voters" don't have a voice. Clinton, who is seeking re-election this year, said during a Martin Luther King Day event in Harlem this week that the House "has been run like a plantation," in that "nobody with a contrary view has had a chance to present legislation, to make an argument, to be heard."