Heck, half the cities in Europe are "dens of iniquity "... why isn't Arthur Frommer warning me against them?

He also forgot rule number one about freedom.  YOu are allowed to associate with whomever you want.  Apparently, in Fromer's book, that only applies to people who think like him.

Wow, Kanab: City of Hate. lol

I guess this bonehead has the right to look as stupid as he wants... and he is doing a great job at it!

I wonder how much more business Kanab and the rest of the Lake Powel area will enjoy from all this free advertizing ;~D

This is just another case of someone using their position to inappropriately push their moral agenda. 

Hollywood anyone?

I have been to that community on Mtn Biking trips and stop offs to and from Lake Powell. Not once did I notice any sexual preference signs nor posted regulations about who visitors should marry, just a lot of beautiful scenery and gracious folks.

Thanks to singrdave, otherwise I wouldn't have known a travel guild publisher would feel it's appropriate to impose his views on travelers. What it's done for this traveler is told me which Travel Guides not to purchase or consider.

I can't believe that someone would be so closed-minded as to say such things about the beautiful city of Kanab!

From mutant acorns do mutant oak trees grow.

Joe Tucker, U.S. Congressional candidate for Utah’s 2nd District, supports the City of Kanab's endorsement of the Natural Family and is ready to take it nationwide:

“We have been preached separation of church and state by secularists for so long that we begin to believe that our moral beliefs have no place in government. To the contrary, many of our laws are based on moral belief. Clearly Utah has a religious majority. Religion influences our moral beliefs as it should. Standing up for our moral beliefs is not forcing our religion on anyone. I admire the courage of the Kanab city council in endorsing the Natural Family. I hope they don't give in to fear as a few loud voices express their anger. We need civic leaders with the courage to stand up for morality and the family. The Kanab city council has my support.”

The Natural Family resolution begins: “We envision a local culture that upholds the marriage of a woman to a man, and a man to a woman as ordained of God.” It ends with: “And we look to local government that holds the protection of the natural family to be their first responsibility.” The NF resolution brazenly states an elected official’s first responsibility is to people who believe in God, specifically a God who ordains heterosexual monogamy. Atheists, Buddhists, secular humanists and plain old Pagans are thus relegated to what? A government’s “second” responsibility? Third? Fourth?

Supreme Court Associate Justice Sandra Day O'Connor created a simple criteria for situations like this: “A law is unconstitutional if it favors one religion over another in a way that makes some people feel like outsiders and others feel like insiders.”

Amen, Sister O’Connor.

Joe Tucker, however, supports the NF resolution because, “Standing up for our moral beliefs is not forcing our religion on anyone.” He further hopes Kanab’s city council won’t rescind the resolution and thereby give in to “fear.” Eh? The council members have passed a resolution which clearly makes God’s ordained spouses their first responsibility. With Heaven on their side what in Hell do they have to fear?

Joe Tucker also states on his website that separation of church and state is NOT in the U.S. Constitution. This refers to the semantic debate over the “establishment” clause of the First Amendment which has been raging for decades. Mr. Tucker states, “We have been preached separation of church and state by secularists for so long that we begin to believe that our moral beliefs have no place in government.” Briefly, then, Mr. Tucker feels secularists hinder morality in government. His feelings are validated by the fact that one-hundred percent of the major political scandals in U.S. history have centered around people who belonged to one organized religion or another.

Mr. Tucker also explains why a citizen’s right to brandish a lethal weapon IS embraced by the U.S. Constitution: “We have just seen in New Orleans how quickly civilization can deteriorate into lawlessness in a crisis. As a member of Congress I will fight to insure that the right of good citizens to bear arms is not infringed.”

Which is why I say, vote JOE TUCKER for Congress. We’ll never get a Democrat elected in THIS district so our next best strategy is obvious: Elect a Republican who openly supports both the Natural Family concept as well as city-wide gunplay following a natural disaster.

Which is why I say, vote JOE TUCKER for Congress. We’ll never get a Democrat elected in THIS district so our next best strategy is obvious: Elect a Republican who openly supports both the Natural Family concept as well as city-wide gunplay following a natural disaster.

Umm, thanks for your verbose and single-eyebrow-raising post, Harold.

So are you actually endorsing this Joe Tucker guy or are you hoping he'll get elected because of his right-wing kookiness? If I'm reading your post right, I think you're hoping this guy will fall all over himself and give him, Kanab, NRA nuts, and Republicans in general a bad name...?

Does the government not have the right to define the conditions of, say, a driver's license? If one person is able to get a drivers license in one state, and not another, are they being descriminated against? Felons can't vote in some states, do the states not have the right to define the contracts they make with their citizens?

This argument only holds water if you consider marriage an unregulatable 'right'. We don't have any unregulatable rights in America. Free speech is regulated; you can't lie about someone or yell fire in a theater. All of our rights have conditions. Anyone can get married, they just have to abide by the definition of marriage set by their state. If people don't like the definition, they should rally voters to make a change, not invent "rights" out of thin air.

He also forgot rule number one about freedom. YOu are allowed to associate with whomever you want. Apparently, in Fromer's book, that only applies to people who think like him.

And he's allowed to publish whatever he feels like--if you don't like it, don't buy his book. He's got freedoms to, you know.

Geez, it's not like there is a dearth of travel books on the market Just pick up another one.

"And he's allowed to publish whatever he feels like--if you don't like it, don't buy his book. He's got freedoms to, you know."

I don't have a problem with his point-of-view, or even people boycotting practices they dislike. I am just tired of the growing whine about rights and discrimination. People are more and more taking it for granted that homosexual marriage is some kind of god-given right, simply because of the endless stream of tirades like this.

And he's allowed to publish whatever he feels like

I'm not trying to abrogate his right to free speech or his freedom to believe the way he wants about homosexuality or the city of Kanab, Utah. What I am saying is that Arthur Frommer picked a very interesting forum to express his views. Calling for a boycott of a small town in Utah seems like a strange and somewhat asinine thing to do.

Calling for a boycott of a small town in Utah seems like a strange and somewhat asinine thing to do.

Agreed. My comment was directed specifically at the comment left by Dr. Guy about free speech.

I am just tired of the growing whine about rights and discrimination.

And I grow tired of the whining about people whining about rights and discrimination--but I don't think that me being tired is going to change anything

Hardly akin. One is misrepresenting the real rights we have as Americans, and another is trying to make people understand those rights. Most of our problems in the US comes from people not knowing what their rights are; like people who come here and when they get banned claim their 'freedom of speech' has been infringed upon.

You think there should be no rebuttal when people just try to invent rights out of thin air?

Most of our problems in the US comes from people not knowing what their rights are; like people who come here and when they get banned claim their 'freedom of speech' has been infringed upon.

Absolutely right. Does this contribute to our litigious society?