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We missed Zawahiri by... that much.
Published on January 15, 2006 By singrdave In War on Terror
The War on Terror is being fought using false information!

The Bush Administration used faulty information to initiate an attack on allies' soil!

I always thought Pakistan was an ally in the War on Terror! But here we are, bombing people on Paki soil!

Here, read for yourself, from Yahoo News:

Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader was invited to a dinner marking a Muslim festival on the night of the devastating U.S. missile strike in a Pakistani border village, but he failed to show up, Pakistani intelligence officials said Sunday.


Ayman al-Zawahri sent aides instead, the officials said, and investigators are trying to establish if any of them were among the at least 17 people killed in the attack, which sparked a second day of anti-U.S. protests across the country Sunday.

Some 10,000 people rallied in Karachi, Pakistan's biggest city, chanting "Death to America" and "Stop bombing against innocent people." Hundreds also protested in Islamabad, Lahore, Multan and Peshawar, burning U.S. flags and demanding U.S. troops leave neighboring Afghanistan.


So we missed. And missed big. What gets me is that politicians from both sides of the aisle are lining up to defend the action:

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and other American lawmakers on Sunday defended the airstrike.

"This war on terror has no boundaries," McCain, a former Navy combat pilot who challenged George W. Bush for the Republican presidential nomination in 2000, told CBS. "We have to go where these people are, and we have to take them out."

David Almacy, a White House spokesman, declined to comment directly on the airstrike, saying only, "Pakistan is a valued ally on the war on terror."

Pakistan says it does not allow American forces on its soil to attack or hunt militants. On Saturday, the government condemned the attack and lodged a diplomatic protest, saying it had killed innocent civilians.

In a sign of tensions over the attack on Damadola village, two top Pakistani officials -- one from the military, the other from the civilian administration -- said privately Sunday that the government was only informed of the strike after it happened.

However, U.S. Sen. Evan Bayh, a Democratic member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said he had "every reason to believe" high-ranking officials in the Pakistani government knew in advance.


Where is the outrage? Where is the umbrage? Where is the taking to task of the persons involved with the faulty information and/or the botched airstrike? Where is the breast-beating from Dems over America's callous disregard for Pakistani innocents in the War on Terror?

Or could it be that we are fighting this war the best we can, off of the best intel we obtain? Wrong or right, it's actionable and useful. Zawahiri knows his days are numbered and that we are after him. Now if we could only get a bead on Osama...



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on Jan 17, 2006
no one used the word "proof" until "YOU" did.


i guess i gotta splain this to you really slowly...

if you'll actually read what i said instead of what you THINK i *said*--perhaps about 20 times--you may eventually catch on. i was responding to singrdave's observation regarding the overall lack of anger over this particular attack in pakistan and suggesting that lack of anger proved the error of those claiming we who are opposed to the war in iraq are also opposed to fighting a war on terror.


I guess I'm the one that needs to talk slowly! I am talking about a "specific" word! The word that was used is "proof" as in "it's maybe proof of what you wanna deny." I was NOT talking about your observation OR your opinion or even "how" you used the word, but your "use" of a specific word! Now would you like a hanky to wipe the egg off your face? Maybe you should go read my last posted thread called: GAAAAAAH!
on Jan 18, 2006
Is that bad intel going to be used to win the hearts and minds of the Pakistani people? Are we going to have to try and spin this for support of American presence in Pakistan?


i doubt there's much we could do to win the hearts & minds of northwest pakistan. spin for support of american presence in peshawar? what the hell have you been smoking?

you asked:

Where is the outrage? Where is the umbrage? Where is the taking to task of the persons involved with the faulty information and/or the botched airstrike? Where is the breast-beating from Dems over America's callous disregard for Pakistani innocents in the War on Terror?


it's not as if i wasn't aware of your sarcasm or the point you were hoping to make whe i decided to treat those questions as if they deserved answers.

what can i say? on its way to setting us free, the truth generally undermines and erodes flawed assumptions. in this case, what's true is what we've been saying all along. we're as strongly supportive of a real war on terror and willing to accept honest mistakes to that end as we are totally and fiercely opposed to a buncha irresponsible, incompetent ideologues squandering precious lives and resources as the clock slowly ticks us closer to the next shoe dropping.
on Jan 18, 2006
I was NOT talking about your observation OR your opinion or even "how" you used the word, but your "use" of a specific word!


well i guess you told me.

but hey...did you take note that NO ONE used the words egg or hanky? At least not until you did.
on Jan 18, 2006
I was NOT talking about your observation OR your opinion or even "how" you used the word, but your "use" of a specific word!


well i guess you told me.


I guess I did.
on Jan 18, 2006
I guess I did.


so how many magic beans did you get for the cow?
on Jan 18, 2006
Kingbee:
what the hell have you been smoking?

I was being facetious, considering how much antipathy the Pakistanis have for an American presence. But since we're propping up the Musharraf government ("a powerful ally in the War on Terror"), I figured the next logical step would be either the US or Paki gov't coming out and saying that everything was fine, status quo.

in this case, what's true is what we've been saying all along. we're as strongly supportive of a real war on terror and willing to accept honest mistakes to that end

Which is where I think this falls. File this under "Well-Intentioned Miss".

a buncha irresponsible, incompetent ideologues squandering precious lives and resources as the clock slowly ticks us closer to the next shoe dropping.

Oh, and the anticipation is driving us all mad! Mad, I say!
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