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Government-sponsored Christianity!
Published on December 22, 2005 By singrdave In US Domestic
Recently there has been a flurry of Church vs. State activism regarding the use of religious symbols and functions within the American government. It's over the "establishment of religion", which finds flower in the CHAPLAIN.

The military chaplain is expected to be a spiritual advisor and friend to all within military ranks and circles. He or she is supposed to take the lead in family group counseling sessions, open and close military functions with a prayer, and be an all around religious symbol to the troops.

America's military chaplaincy predates the American Revolution. The First Continental Congress established the chaplaincy, and it was challenged in the mid-18th century as being a government tool to the establishment of religion. Michael Gaynor explains: "In Katcoff v. Marsh, 755 F.2d 223 (1985), the Second Circuit Court of Appeals correctly concluded that the government's practice of hiring military chaplains did not violate the First Amendment's ban on religious establishments, based on the need to support military personnel in the free exercise of their religion, and opined that the military's religious program should be 'neutral,' should limit competition among religious groups, and should leave the practice of religion solely to the individual soldier, 'who is free to worship or not as he chooses, without fear of any discipline or stigma.'"

The Senate Judiciary Committee later opined on the First Amendment and its applicability to the question of chaplains,
The clause speaks of "an establishment of religion." What is meant by that expression? It referred, without doubt, to the establishment which existed in the mother country, its meaning is to be ascertained by ascertaining what that establishment was. It was the connection with the state of a particular religious society, by its endowment, at public expense, in exclusion of, or in preference to, any other, by giving to its members exclusive political rights, and by compelling the attendance of those who rejected its communion upon its worship, or religious observances. These three particulars constituted that union of church and state of which our ancestors were so justly jealous, and against which they so wisely and carefully provided....

The Senate report went on to say that the Founders were "utterly opposed to any constraint upon the rights of conscience" and thus the Founding Fathers opposed the state's establishment of a religion as the church of England was established. But, the Founders' vision "had no fear or jealousy of religion itself, nor did they wish to see us an irreligious people....They did not intend to spread over all the public authorities and the whole public action of the nation the dead and revolting spectacle of 'atheistic apathy.' Not so had the battles of the revolution been fought, and the deliberations of the revolutionary Congress conducted."

On December 21, 2005, The Washington Times' Julia Duin reported not only that military chaplains are being told to shy from Jesus, but that one of them is engaged in a hunger strike outside the White House:
To pray -- or not to pray -- in Jesus' name is the question plaguing an increasing number of U.S. military chaplains, one of whom began a multiday hunger strike outside the White House yesterday.
"I am a Navy chaplain being fired because I pray in Jesus' name," said Navy Lt. Gordon Klingenschmitt, who will be holding 6 p.m. prayer vigils daily in Lafayette Park.
The hunger strike is intended to persuade President Bush to issue an executive order allowing military chaplains to pray according to their individual faith traditions. The American Center for Law and Justice has gathered 173,000 signatures on a petition seeking an executive order.
Seventy-three members of Congress have joined the request, saying in an Oct. 25 letter to the president, "In all branches of the military, it is becoming increasingly difficult for Christian chaplains to use the name of Jesus when praying."
About 80 percent of U.S. troops are Christian, the legislators wrote, adding that military "censorship" of chaplains' prayers disenfranchises "hundreds of thousands of Christian soldiers in the military who look to their chaplains for comfort, inspiration and support."


The Rev. Billy Baugham, executive director of the Greenville, S.C.-based International Conference of Evangelical Chaplain Endorsers, said that recently "he had 'just got a call from an Army chaplain in Iraq who says he'd be hammered if he used Jesus' name. Chaplains are scared to death. They must clear their prayers with their commanders, they can mention Jesus' name at chapel services, but not outside that context.'"

Other religions are not discouraged to pray in their own ways. The Jewish, Muslim, and Catholic chaplains have never been discouraged in this or any other manner to keep their sectarian ways to themselves. Even the Presidential Christmas message has a direct, unabashedly Christian message! So why should a Christian chaplain, whose faith is also his paycheck, be reprimanded or discouraged into overlooking the spiritual needs of those who come to him/her for spiritual solace?

Come to think of it, it's either allow Christianity without reservation or dismantle the whole chaplain program completely. I mean, if it's that egregious for Christian chaplains to state the name of Jesus Christ, then why have the chaplaincy in the first place? The whole purpose of the chaplain program is for ministering to the spiritual needs of the parishioners, who in this case are troops. Because if a Christian minister is not able to invoke the name of his Savior in public, he can't do his job.

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on Dec 22, 2005
Shameless bump!
on Dec 22, 2005
My husband was directed to a Chaplain when he was deployed last year. The Chaplain really turned him off with his aggressive Christianity-only brand of counseling.

Having said that, I also sought the services of a Chaplain last year and my time with him was very beneficial and I found that while he did encourage me to nurture my faith, he was very respectful and not overly pushy.

I don't think that what my husband's Chaplain did was wrong...it just wasn't the most effective approach he could have taken.

I agree with you that Chaplains should be allowed to do their jobs...sharing their personal faith with Soldiers and family members who request their help. No one is FORCED to use make use of their knowledge or guidance (and in my husband's case, he simply didn't see that Chaplain again...problem solved). Religious guidance can be very valuable for our troops who seek it out, and I think it would be tragic to remove that source of education, inspiration, and guidance from them.

We have Chaplains of many, many faiths to match the needs of our military which is composed of many, many faiths. I think it would be harmful to the morale of our troops to restrict the Chaplains.
on Dec 22, 2005
It's too bad that your hubby's chaplain scared him off, I'm sure that he could have really used the chaplain's services.
Through the required MDiv program, chaplains receive extensive training in counseling as well as multi-denominational tolerance. I guess your hub's chap didn't pay close enough attention in those courses.
Chaplains need to tailor the message to the audience. That means that too much Christ and not enough helping out can also scare off a humble seeker of truth. But they also need to be free to preach without fear of repercussions.

on Dec 22, 2005
singrdave:
It's too bad that your hubby's chaplain scared him off, I'm sure that he could have really used the chaplain's services.


Haha. Ain't that the truth. The secular counselor they assigned him gave him some REALLY bad advice.

Chaplains need to tailor the message to the audience. That means that too much Christ and not enough helping out can also scare off a humble seeker of truth. But they also need to be free to preach without fear of repercussions.


I agree 100%. It's always better if they, as you said, tailor the message to the audience (and doing that well is something that mostly comes from experience), but no one is forcing Soldiers or family members to subject themselves to views that oppose theirs. If a Chaplain's way of preaching doesn't sit well with a Soldier, he or she can seek out one that is better fit or find other sources of guidance.

The military makes it very easy for a Soldier/family member to find someone that they're comfortable with, both with Chaplains and with on base secular counseling services (we had some of that, too, and it was very helpful as well).

I think I'm veering off topic here, my apologies. All I mean to say with all this rambling and personal anecdotes is simply that I agree with you. Chaplains of any faith should not be punished or discouraged from expressing their religious views. That expression is the entire point of their place within the military.
on Dec 22, 2005
I think I'm veering off topic here, my apologies. All I mean to say with all this rambling and personal anecdotes is simply that I agree with you.

No, you're using personal experience to back up my contention. And for that, I thank you!
on Dec 22, 2005
Adrian's Chaplain, Tex's Chaplain, and all are just a cross section of all religions in the US (there are even Muslim Chaplains).  It is not the right of the the US Government to dictate how and where they pray.  Some will shout Jesus's name from every outpost, and others will quietly minister to the flock.  But to deny them their beliefs IS a violation of the FIrst amendment.  For in so doing, the Government is dictating a religion.  Period.
on Dec 22, 2005
I dunno. I do know that I often hated the bland, uber-generic politically correct prayers at ceremonies, and at services on post, where doctrine often wasn't allowed, sometimes talking about Jesus wasn't allowed. I've been to Unitarian services that showed more commitment. I say crap or get off the pot. Are they allowed to preach or not?
on Dec 24, 2005
There is currently no Naval regulation banning the use of Jesus' name in a prayer; however, Chaplains are encouraged to try to be sensitive to people of other faiths when praying at a mandatory unit wide event. As a Christian, I would have a hard time agreeing with a Muslim prayer that quoted the Koran as absolute truth and began or ended the prayer in allah's name. I would imagine that Muslims might have a similar problem if the New Testament were frequently quoted and the name of Jesus Christ was mentioned throughout the prayer and the prayer was prayed in Jesus' name. I am not a politcally correct kind of guy, but I think I am a more conscientious Chaplain if I understand the context in which I am praying and seek inclusivity and unity instead of exclusivity and division. There are no such "limitations" when conducting worship services, Bible studies, and other religious activities. I serve to provide for the free exercise of religion. I provide for other Christians and facilitate for all faiths per the 1st Amendment.
on Dec 25, 2005

I serve to provide for the free exercise of religion. I provide for other Christians and facilitate for all faiths per the 1st Amendment.

Thank you for the clarification.  As a brat, I never saw any overt attempts to subvert the religion of Chaplain in question, but that was over 30 years ago and a lot has changed.  I understand the reasons you state, and in your capacity, I understand the generics of a wide inclusion.  IN that, I have no problems.

on Dec 25, 2005
The Jewish, Muslim, and Catholic chaplains have never been discouraged in this or any other manner to keep their sectarian ways to themselves


catholic chaplains aren't christian? in that case, i guess neither are are those belonging to such non-christian sects as the church of latter-day saints, jehovah's witnesses, christian scientists or seventh-day adventists to name just a few.
on Dec 26, 2005
The Jewish, Muslim, and Catholic chaplains have never been discouraged in this or any other manner to keep their sectarian ways to themselves

catholic chaplains aren't christian?


The key word in that sentence is sectarian.
on Dec 26, 2005
catholic chaplains aren't christian? in that case, i guess neither are are those belonging to such non-christian sects as the church of latter-day saints, jehovah's witnesses, christian scientists or seventh-day adventists to name just a few.


Except for these are Christian denominations, unless you know more about my beliefs than I do.
on Dec 26, 2005
When I was in I always supported our unit chaplain. In the field, I made sure I could attend the meetings the chaplains came around to hold. While there were a few Latter-Day Saint Chaplains on Ft. Bragg, I never had one as a unit chaplain. Once in awhile a chaplain had a problem with an LDS member in his meetings, but it was very rare.

I was never in a unit with a Wiccan or Pagan chaplain, but I would have attended the meetings they held for us if I did. Just as my unit chaplain wasn't there to support any specific religion or denomination, neither was I. The chaplain was there to support my spiritual rights, and I was there to support his.

I think it's disgusting that the Navy is now threatening any Chaplain on the basis of their religion. The whole purpose of the Chaplain Corps is to protect the religious rights of the troops, to see their religious rights not protected just shows me how arrogant the anti religion movement is becoming.

Not even the ACLU sees a problem with military chaplains.
on Dec 26, 2005
Except for these are Christian denominations, unless you know more about my beliefs than I do.


apparently your sarcasm detector needs to be readjusted. of course, they're all christian denominations. i wasn't the one who listed catholics with muslims and jews as an example of non-christian believers.
on Dec 27, 2005
i wasn't the one who listed catholics with muslims and jews as an example of non-christian believers.

The key word in that sentence is sectarian! Geez, can't a guy make a slip of the keyboard around here?
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