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A conversation on my way to work
Published on October 21, 2008 By singrdave In Parenting

I passed two people on my walk from the parking lot this morning who were discussing their kids. This is the extent of the conversation I heard:

 

"My kids are still little and at home."

"Yeah, my kids are grown up and out of the house.  In fact, I sent both my daughters to four years of college and all they're doing is raising kids at home."

 

I can't let that kind of blinkard stupidity go unchallenged.  I turned around and told the man (after apologizing for eavesdropping), "I guarantee your daughters work four times as hard as they would in the workforce."

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But what's your take?  Are stay-at-home moms throwing away their hard collegiate work by staying home? Are they also wasting the money it took to get them there?  Should a dad be regretful or bitter that his daughters decided to stay out of the rat race?  Is he getting a good return on his investment?

 

Is this dad right or wrong?  Justified in his outrage or blinded by his priorities?


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on Oct 23, 2008

PS - I think, as a whole (meaning people in general), the biological urge to reproduce is important (ok, obviously, LOL).  As individuals, I certainly don't think it's critical.  Some great advances could not be made by someone with lots of family obligations...or else, they'd need to completely neglect said family.

I think we've evolved past the point where reproduction is the pennacle of our forward thrust as a species.

 

on Oct 23, 2008

Take everyone's favourite modern saint/beatified one, Mother Teresa. She never had any children. But to say that her life was meaningless, that she left nothing behind, is to ignore everything that is important about humans in favour of something that is an utter triviality.

Excellent point!

When men start breastfeeding, we'll probably see a rise in the numbers of SAHDs...

Sorry, I just cant get the image of Robert DeNiro in Meet the Fockers out of my mind!

on Oct 24, 2008

the woman has:

1. To carry the baby to term.

2. To recover from childbirth.

3. To breatfeed her child.

4. A strong maternal sense...

 

To call it "society" and label it "sexist" is beyond ignorant.

on Oct 24, 2008

MasonM

And yes if you choose not to have kids your life is wasted. ANY living organism, by the very definition of life, must reproduce to leave something behind. Since eventually we all die.

 

Now there's an enlightened and intelligent viewpoint. So if, say, a person spent their life working in the medical field, saved countless lives, discovered a cure for cancer as well as the common cold, their life would have been wasted if they never had children? I would think not. As sentient beings simplistic biological measures are not enough as they fail to take into account the lasting contributions of the mind which can be far greater than simply reproducing. 

Yap, completely wasted... someone else would have discovered those medical secrets...maybe one of their children who inhereted their superior intelligence via their genes.

You might as well sacrifice your life to save a corel reef.

There is one exception... social evolution. If you create new ways of thinking an permiate them via society, if you treat society as an organism (just like treating a bee hive as an organism), then learned bahaviours that you teach, even to non genetically related persons, act like the genes of society itself.

Ofcourse why in the hell does that PREVENT you from having children... you waste your MASSIVE potential, you should have created the works AND knocked up a bunch of women (plenty of volunteers for the guy who cured cancer) to transfer your superior genes, giving much much MUCH more to society then merely your creations (aka, adding your children's creations as well).

The only way for a person to not have children and not waste their life/potential is if they are creating great changes in society AND are STERILE to begin with... in that case it is not a choice to not have kids, and they still did something that will last on through time.

Although technically over the next billion years there is a good chance of humanity going extinct and none of this mattering anyways...

it just doesn't matter that it doesn't matter. I was slightly exaggerating for the sake of emphasis, but only SLIGHTLY...

on Oct 24, 2008

Wow. Can I just say how fun I bet dating Taltamir would be?

A wo/man so fixated on having as much sex with as many virile partners as often as possible (to ensure s/he doesn't waste his/her life) must go off in the sack.

Shame about the conversation though.

on Oct 24, 2008

heh, funny you should mention that, at the moment I am celibate (temporary), I got important things to do, and the only way to be sure is abstinence (condoms break, etc). Don't take it as me aproving abstinence training, that is not something you can or should try teaching. And people who have less defined and less far reaching goals or goals that would not be hampered by having children should. So yea... i'd get to humping AFTER I finish my "cure for cancer" so to speak (note: I am not literally working on a cure for cancer).

on Oct 24, 2008

Some women work in environments where they take lunches with friends and have periods of the day where they have little stress and little activity/responsibility.

That exists???  Dude, I want THAT!  My job is not like that at all.  I hardly ever go out of the office during the day, and the only time I work only 40 hours is when I take time off.  LOL 

Now, to find a wife who wants a career so I can watch munchkins all day

If my husband didn't have such expensive hobbies (Drag racing in the summer and snowmobiling in the winter) then he could stay home and be Mr. Mom.  I'm just waiting for his company to downsize so that he would be forced to cut back his spending and stay home  

Karma . . for a small fee I can muck out the barn
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How much do you charge for cleaning dog poo out of the yard?  I also could use a pool boy, but only in the summer.  LOL

on Oct 27, 2008

talaimir, I truly hope you never reproduce as you are truly an idiot.

on Dec 18, 2008

I took to reading the above, and found that the subject got lost in its complexities?  What does that say about human nature.  Sometimes inexperience reaks.  Haveing a child doesn't always happen in the most perfect of situations.  When they do happen to be born, that is when you yourself as a Biological Father or Mother get to really show who you are as a human being.  The lesson is always there if you choose to see, hear, or feel it.  It isn't always pleasant.  I sacraficed alot.  Mostly because I sacraficed myself first.

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