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$$$ is always a huge incentive... will it change sanctuary policy?
Published on September 6, 2007 By singrdave In US Domestic
Recently Department of Homeland Security chief Michael Chertoff toyed with the idea of cutting off federal security funding to cities that have declared themselves "sanctuary cities" for illegal immigrants.

From the Washington Times:
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff [on Sept 5th] told a House panel that his agency will not tolerate interference by so-called "sanctuary cities" when it comes to hiring illegal aliens.

Mr. Chertoff said his agency will enforce the Basic Pilot Program that requires businesses to check the legal status of new employees by matching Social Security numbers and information in Homeland Security Department databases.

Mr. Chertoff told the House Homeland Security Committee: "I certainly wouldn't tolerate interference" by cities who attempt to block the program. "We're exploring our legal options," Mr. Chertoff said. "I intend to take as vigorous legal action as the law allows to prevent that from happening, prevent that kind of interference."

Mr. Chertoff stopped short of threatening "sanctuary cities" by withholding government funding. "I don't know that I have the authority to cut off all Homeland Security funds if I disagree with the city's policy on immigration," Mr. Chertoff said. "And of course, I have to say the consequence of that might be to put the citizens at risk, you know, in the event of a natural disaster.

"I don't want to put people's lives at risk, but I do think where the law gives me the power to prevent anybody from interfering with our activities, we will use the law to prevent that interference," Mr. Chertoff said.


Cities such as Dallas, Minneapolis, San Francisco, New Haven CT -- and most importantly, Washington DC and New York City -- have declared themseleves sanctuaries for illegals fleeing federal immigration enforcement. They would be on the list for federal penalties under Chertoff's idea.

This is a great way to force compliance with the law. This worked before: in the 1980s in Arizona, the state refused to make Martin Luther King Day a paid state holiday. Instead they established "Civil Rights Day" as the 3rd Sunday in January rather than the Monday, thus adding to the numerous state holidays the state already felt was too burdensome. The government cut highway funding to the state. Thanks to massive media outrage and a week's worth of scathing Doonesbury cartoons, the state suffered further financial hardship as 45 conventions were cancelled and $25 million in revenue was lost. The NFL announced that Phoenix would not host a Super Bowl until the MLK Day was established on Monday. Eventually the state capitulated and all was well, if not forgiven.

Financial sanction is a powerful motivator. But to cut off Homeland Security funding to the sites of 9/11-- foolhardy ideas or effective motivator for policy change?

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Comments
on Sep 06, 2007
Time for enforcement? Or at least financial penalties?
on Sep 06, 2007
New Hampshire had Civil Rights Day until about 2000, when they changed it to Martin Luther King, Jr. Civil Right Day. MLK Jr. Day is stupid. Why do the people complain about a holiday that celebrates everyone's rights? Why do they need it to just celebrate one person who was a part of the struggle? I would much rather celebrate Civil Rights Day, and celebrate EVERYONE that was part of that struggle.

Imbeciles.

Anyway, yeah, it worked before, and now all 50 states only celebrate one man out of many.

Also worked to change the drinking age.

In fact, it will continue to work until someone finally tells the US government that they've again overstepped their bounds and that they need to butt out of STATE affairs.

But this illegal immigration thing is most certainly not a state affair. No, that's the Federal government's job.
on Sep 06, 2007

Actually this is a better example of how to use the money.  The MLK thing when the NFL and private organizations did it was fine.  When DOT got involved that was just vindictive and probably unconstitutional.

But Homeland security IS defined in the constitution as one of the few responsibilities of the federal government.  In that, they have every right to move the money to places where it will do the most good.  Harboring illegal aliens, while not explicitly aiding our enemies, does abet them by hindering the federal government from performing their task.  And if not for the passivity of the activity (just not enforcing laws instead of out right breaking them) would be declared unconstitutional.

on Sep 06, 2007
But Homeland security IS defined in the constitution as one of the few responsibilities of the federal government. In that, they have every right to move the money to places where it will do the most good. Harboring illegal aliens, while not explicitly aiding our enemies, does abet them by hindering the federal government from performing their task.

I think that DHS lawyers are going to find they're fully within their rights to withhold federal funds to sanctuary cities.

But should they threaten this way? Would such a standard endanger these cities through their non-compliance?

Let's say Washington DC refuses to change their sanctuary policy, calling the DHS bluff. They are sanctioned by the DHS for not enforcing illegal immigration and federal money is withheld. Washington either becomes woefully unfunded in its security or has to make up the shortfall out of its own coffers until it complies. This makes Washington more vulnerable to terrorist attack. Is this a scenario the DHS wants to pursue?
on Sep 06, 2007

Let's say Washington DC refuses to change their sanctuary policy, calling the DHS bluff. They are sanctioned by the DHS for not enforcing illegal immigration and federal money is withheld. Washington either becomes woefully unfunded in its security or has to make up the shortfall out of its own coffers until it complies. This makes Washington more vulnerable to terrorist attack. Is this a scenario the DHS wants to pursue?

DC is a bad example because by simple legislation, Congress can force them to.

But let's take San Fran instead.  You are right in your fears.  And any sane person would be as well.  But a child is not a sane person.  A child wants a simple world where they get their wants when they want them.  Until they are an adult, it is the responsibility of the parent - the adult - to tell them no.  Once they are an adult, there is nothing the adult can do to change that attitude if it has not changed by then.  So is the parent then obligated to continue to indulge the child's every whim just because the child never matured and took responsibilty upon themselves?

I say no.  It is called tough love.  And at that time, when the child becomes an adult, the parent should say no by withholding support. Forcing the child to face the consequences of their irresponsibility.  This is the same situation.  If the government cannot get the city to act in a responsible manner as regards to the law, then withholding the financial means for them to continue in their childish ways is the only option left open.  If the child has any sense at all, they will come to the conclusion that the world does not revolve around them, and in order to live in a civil society, all must follow rules.  And all must contribute to the safety and security of the society as a whole.

These cities are merely being petulant children.  They did not get their wants when they wanted them, so they are holding their breath.  What they dont realize is that they have to breath, we dont have to fund their tantrums.  They will either mature and join the society, or suffer as a petulant child does who has been cut off of the gravy train.

on Sep 06, 2007

I saw the news article on this in the a.m. paper.  Personally I say screw the cities that want to make themselves safe harbor for breaking the law.  If they aren't complying with the existing laws, then there is no hope that any money you give them will be used for the proper items anyway, in fact it could just as easily be used to enable those cities to continue breaking the law or aid in breaking the law.

Let 'em suffer the consequences of their own stupidity and short-sightedness.  Eventually the voters will hold them accountable for their stupidity.  Just ask the former political leaders in Northern Virginia that were tossed out on their tails for shoving a government run migrant worker/day laborer facility down the throats of the citizens that didn't want that facility to be used to help illegal immigrants find employment.  The government stepped in to protect the rights of the illegals and keep from checking id and legal status of the potential employees that were hanging around the site -- until the next election when the protectors of the illegals were tossed out, and the new pol's came in with promises of making sure that the site would check legal status.

As it turns out, that site will soon be closed completely because the government there has now determined that there is no need for the site if there is no ability to enforce anti-solicitation laws in their area.  Instead, illegals there will now be able to hang out 'wherever' and solicit employ.  (Which sort of goes to show that the government there still doesn't really get it as they really should be keeping the site open and doing as they had promised -- bringing in a contractor that will run the site *while checking legal status* of the people that congregate there looking for work.)

on Sep 06, 2007
a government run migrant worker/day laborer facility


Funny you should mention that. See what's turning out to be a companion article.