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Published on June 9, 2006 By singrdave In US Domestic
I believe that marriage is between one man and one woman. And that only a constitutional amendment defining marriage is the only way to protect marriage from those who would corrupt it. Since obviously the will of the people is being overridden by the judicial system in each individual state.

Last week, I was inspired to write to my Senators, Sens. Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) and Barbara Mikulski (D-MD) regarding the so-called marriage protection amendment. This legislation was to come before the Senate on 6 June, and my email I asked them both (as, to be honest, it was a cut-and-paste job) to please vote to support the amendment's passage in any way possible. I encouraged them to consider the positive effects that this amendment would have on not only families but society at large. I wish I had kept a copy of the email, as it was posted to their website rather than emailed from my personal account. But just trust me that this was the thrust of my messages to them. I thought it as well-formed, well-thought-out, and considered it as formal and important as I could.

Then, on 6 June, the Senate had a vote: not on the amendment itself but on cloture (The only procedure by which the Senate can vote to place a time limit on consideration of a bill or other matter, and thereby overcome a filibuster. Under the cloture rule (Rule XXII), the Senate may limit consideration of a pending matter to 30 additional hours, but only by vote of three-fifths of the full Senate, normally 60 votes.) Both Sarbanes and Mikulski voted NAY on cloture, thus killing the bill before it ever was voted upon. But, in effect, they voted to stop the bill without voting up or down on the actual bill.

Then, to add insult to injury, Sarbanes' office wrote me this letter back! Yes, I got a letter back from Sarbanes' office. Mikulski never even bothered to acknowledge my letter...



Dear (singrdave):

Thank you for contacting my office regarding the proposed constitutional amendment defining marriage. I appreciate having the benefit of your views on this issue.

As you may know, S. J. Res. 1 was introduced in the United States Senate on January 24, 2005 and referred to the Senate Committee on the Judiciary. Although I am not a member of the Judiciary Committee, I will be sure to keep your views in mind in the event that this or related legislation comes before the full Senate for consideration.

During the 108th Congress a similar amendment, S. J. Res. 40, was introduced in the United States Senate. A cloture vote regarding S. J. Res. 40 occurred in the Senate on July 14, 2004. Based on these concerns, I voted against the motion to prematurely conclude debate. The motion required 60 votes to cut off debate and failed by receiving only 48. I will be sure to keep your views in mind in the event that this or related legislation comes before the full Senate for consideration.

Again, thank you for taking the time to share your views on this issue. Please do not hesitate to contact me about other matters of importance to you in the future.

With best regards,
Paul Sarbanes
United States Senator


So what he was saying is that if the measure actually gets voted upon, he will consider my views on it. But since his hands are tied and it got caught up in the cloture (that he authorized through his NAY vote!) he can't express his opinion on the proposed amendment. Besides, he's talking about legislation that reached the cloture motion back in 2004, not the one facing the Senate on 6 June 2006. Man, I cannot keep this straight. Is he even referring to the same piece of legislation?!?!

The feeling I came away with (because I can't make heads or tails of this) is that he patted me on the head and went about his own agenda.

Please help me understand what just happened here.


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on Jun 15, 2006
Oh, I could also add that calling Mikulski wouldn't change things either, as she and her staff know she is a "safe" candidate for as long as she continues to run and is registered as a Democrat. She's not even been close to losing an election yet...
on Jun 15, 2006
Oh, I could also add that calling Mikulski wouldn't change things either, as she and her staff know she is a "safe" candidate for as long as she continues to run and is registered as a Democrat. She's not even been close to losing an election yet...


Doesn't that mean that people like what she's doing?

I guess I don't understand the problem. It's a representative democracy. Your Senators and Members of the House do not have to listen to every bit of advice you give them. You in turn, never have to vote for them. If enough people like what they are doing, they will win re-election. If they are out of touch with their constituents, they will lose.

If Milkulski is safe, it's because she's doing her job to the satisfaction of her consituents--why would you fault her that? Just because you don't agree with her position?
on Jun 16, 2006
Doesn't that mean that people like what she's doing?


No, it doesn't mean that at all. It means that people in this most blue state will vote for an admitted murdering rapist if that individual has a (D) behind their name, and will excuse any abuse or sins as long as that (D) continues to promise that they have the answers, feel their pain, and are just being stymied by the mean old nasty republicans otherwise they'd really be making improvements.

To be fair, there are some things that Mikulski has done that are positive, but for the most part she has been ineffectual for many years (especially during the time in the minority party) and gets stuff done only by making deals on issues that add to the pork we keep seeing our government dole out.
on Jun 16, 2006
Oh, I should also clarify and add that I'm not saying Mikulski is guilty of any heinous crimes, just that in this blue state the only thing that matters to (unfortunately) a majority of the voters is that you have that (D) or Democrat designation behind or in front of your name on the ballot.

We've sent judges to positions that have been called on the carpet for doing absolutely horrible jobs (see for example, this link) and the main reason they hold those jobs to this day are that the voters here vote party lines.

It has changed slowly but surely over time, as evidenced by the Republican Governor in the state house, and a few jurisdictions that have become solidly republican in their voting patterns, but the poorer areas -- those that have so long been promised help, compassion, assistance, etc., and for so long have received public funds at the expense of others who are more fortunate -- continue to vote in droves for the (D)'s on the ballot, assuming of course that those people really did vote and didn't just have their votes decided for them automatically by the big (D) machine that controls polling places where far too many shenanigans have been pulled. (See, for example, link here, or here, or here)

Even now, Maryland's Democratic party is pulling strings in the state legislature to liberalize voting requirements and make voter fraud even easier than it ever has been. Most outsiders, looking in, realize it's a recipe for disaster, setting up exactly what that poor lady from California that lost the recent election there (after commenting that you don't need to be in this country legally to vote, don't need papers, etc.) blatantly hinted at: stealing elections is ok, as long as Democrats win.
on Jun 16, 2006
Welcome to My World

Seriously, you understand correctly, and that is precisely what happened to you, and has happened to me on every issue I ever bother to communicate to the (Dis)Honorable Senators from Maryland about. They completely ignore my requests, go on with their own agenda and screw over the people they are supposed to be representing, in the name of serving the people.

Welcome to Maryland? Thanks, Congress and Senate for receiving me with a warm embrace.
Seriously, though, I think this is indicative of the congressional detachment they have with the rest of society. If their responsiveness to correspondence is just a nice, patronizing form letter (that references the wrong legislation in the first place) then they have a serious problem.

Hopefully if change is in the wind, another asshat... I mean, bunghole... I mean, sloth... I mean, oh what was I saying in the first place?
on Jun 16, 2006
No, it doesn't mean that at all.


Actually it does, you just don't happen to be one of those people. If everyone hated her they wouldn't vote for her. The Dems in your state like her/her policies. You unfortunately do not, but you and singerdave are two among many--and two that never voted for her in the first place. You aren't the constituents she's concerned about.

They completely ignore my requests

You request has to be coupled with the requests of everyone else in your state--that's the point of a representative democracy. You know, President Bush never listens to a word I say either--but then, I don't expect him to, I'm not in his voting base.
on Jun 16, 2006
Actually it does, you just don't happen to be one of those people. If everyone hated her they wouldn't vote for her. The Dems in your state like her/her policies. You unfortunately do not, but you and singerdave are two among many--and two that never voted for her in the first place. You aren't the constituents she's concerned about.


Actually you are wrong about not voting for her. I have at times crossed party lines and voted my conscience in voting for her.

As I've said, on some issues she has been somewhat effective, but for the vast majority of issues she's delivered nothing but empty promises and blocking tactics to prevent any policies put forward by the republicans that control the House and Senate. On many of those very same issues she has absolutely and completely sold her constitutents up the river and absolutely and completely ignored the MAJORITY BY POLLING results that show that even her party feels her approach is wrong.

The same with Sarbanes, who again, I'm glad to see retiring. He has been effective in some areas, but for a long time now he's been nothing more than someone that has "worked with" his co-conspirators in the minority party in the congress to obstruct any and all things that come from the majority. To be fair, I think that is part of why he wants to retire, because deep down he's a relatively good man that doesn't like playing such politics. He knows that there is a good chance his seat could be going to a Republican this time, and he's still giving it up and moving on. For that I somewhat /salute him.

BTW, I should also say that what these people at the top really believe and may want to work for really doesn't matter as it all comes down to what their handlers and staff decide for them anyway. They are really no more than mere puppets any more, doing what the party machinery tells them to do and ignoring completely or obstructing at all costs any thing that comes from the other side.
on Jun 16, 2006
You aren't the constituents she's concerned about.


You request has to be coupled with the requests of everyone else in your state--that's the point of a representative democracy.


See, there's a blatant disconnect between these 2 statements. And it has to do with the bolded word in the first statement. In our version of a representative democracy, the Senators represent the ENTIRE state, not just the people that voted for them. If Senators Allen and Warner do something that I disagree with (and they do on a semi-regular basis) then they deserve to hear from the person they represent. If I hadn't voted for them, that doesn't make my concerns any less applicable. From what you said in the first quote, it is my understanding that you think it's perfectly okay for the Senator to ignore the remainder of her state - for the sole reason that they didn't vote for her. And that idea (on the Senator's part) is despicable.
on Jun 16, 2006
And that idea (on the Senator's part) is despicable.


It may be despicable, but it's reality. A senator can't vote both ways on an issue--so chances are, he/she is going to vote the way that their voting based wants them to vote. If you aren't voting for her then it's not a loss if you are upset. However, the offices will still work on constituent issues for you--ie, rushed passport, flag requests, need someone to check with some agency about something. They are still working for you--but their policies don't have to line up with yours (and they can't possibly line up with everyones).

There's no disconnect between my two statements. Your concerns are applicable and will be heard, but chances are wont' sway the Senator (and for the record, they will only be able to guess whether or not you voted for them by the things you say).

What I am saying (because I don't think that I have been clear) is that if a Senator is voting on something and you support side A, but the majority of your state supports side B--of course the Senator is going to vote side B. Their job is to get re-elected.
on Jun 16, 2006
he/she is going to vote the way that their voting based wants them to vote. If you aren't voting for her then it's not a loss if you are upset. However, the offices will still work on constituent issues for you--ie, rushed passport, flag requests, need someone to check with some agency about something. They are still working for you--but their policies don't have to line up with yours (and they can't possibly line up with everyones).

Or the party, or the lobbyists...
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