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Get fined for fat!
Published on July 31, 2007 By singrdave In Health & Medicine
Fat people will still get health care, but they will be penalized under this new system. As introduced by Clarian Health Partners in Indiana, obese people will be penalized for their "lifestyle choices".

From today's Baltimore Sun:
Looking for new ways to trim the fat and boost workers' health, some employers are starting to make overweight employees pay if they don't slim down. Others, citing growing medical costs tied to obesity, are offering fit workers lucrative incentives that shave thousands of dollars a year off health care premiums.

In one of the boldest moves yet, an Indiana-based hospital chain said last month that it had decided on the stick rather than the carrot. Starting in 2009, Clarian Health Partners said it will charge employees up to $30 every two weeks unless they meet weight, cholesterol and blood pressure guidelines the company deems healthy.


What bothers me about this is that for some, obesity is not a lifestyle choice. It's very difficult for people like me to get skinny and stay skinny. I'm not making excuses -- I belong to a gym which I frequent regularly. And I was in the Army, for crying out loud, where I lost 60 pounds in basic training... and then still struggled to stay within Army fat guidelines. And I have my Lean Cuisine meal waiting for me at lunchtime. So I am very familiar with the struggle with obesity. And I don't think I should get smacked with an additional $60 per month for my health care coverage!

But for a health care company to actually penalize someone for obesity... unfair? Discriminatory?

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on Aug 01, 2007
I think it will just cause more eating disorders. Hope that's covered.
on Aug 01, 2007
'I think it will just cause more eating disorders.'
I presume you mean anorexia nervosa, bulimia etc. But don't forget, in many cases obesity is assessed as the result of an eating disorder. So, do you think the overall number of eating disorders will increase?
on Aug 01, 2007
Good point. But I think the borderline people, who don't have an eating disorder but are ruled overweight by the arbitrary standards, are the ones who are at risk here. So the overall number will increase, but not to the degree I was thinking of at first.
on Aug 01, 2007
It's kinda funny to think obesity is such a big deal in a country supposedly there are so many poor and hungry people.
on Aug 01, 2007
The poor are the fattest of all. They can't afford to exercise.
on Aug 01, 2007
They can't afford to exercise.


LOL.

The BMI isn't really all that great, but it's the best we have. Perhaps body fat measurements or even just tape tests would be better?

Or maybe a PT test to measure fitness? Haha. Even the skinnies would hate that!

You can't be fat due to bone. That doesn't make any sense.

I am 8 lbs overweight, but I have a 36G chest (lactating, haha). Wonder if they would take that into account? I'm pretty sure my boobs weigh at least 8 lbs.
on Aug 01, 2007
Is there a decent boob-weighing machine out there?

Lactating will do that to you, I guess. You'll probably get rid of those 8 lbs when you stop.

I'd like to see what would happen if they had a PT test... it screams discrimination against the disabled.
on Aug 02, 2007
I smoke cigarettes because I'm addicted to them. It's not very easy for me to quit.

Why should I pay higher healthcare than a non-smoker. Why should I be penalized?

Is there a decent boob-weighing machine out there?


There sure is! Just let me wash my hands first...I'm an expert
on Aug 02, 2007
You can't be fat due to bone. That doesn't make any sense.


Well it may not be fat that you can probably notice simply by looking but it does add some weight, but its mostly a combination of bone and muscle that can make you seem larger and overweight without that much fat. My sister in law for example is a woman who is pretty big but she is more muscle and bone than fat. But if you look at her you would think she would spend more time in Burger King than anything, she barely likes fast foods and she eats somewhat healthy. I say somewhat because she isn't perfect. But then I eat way more than she does and I look skinny next to her. Same with many Black and Hispanic girls I've seen where they have big rears with skinny bodies, lots of muscle there. Mmmmmmmmmmmm. Sorry, have barely seen a white girl with a big butt, it's very rare.
on Aug 02, 2007
There sure is! Just let me wash my hands first...I'm an expert


I bet your mom doesn't know this, otherwise you may have to live the your whole life knowing that you know your moms chest weight. Uhhhh, just the thought of it makes me sick. LOL.
on Aug 02, 2007
so many poor and hungry people.

Poor and hungry are mutually exclusive in these United States. Here is a link to an excellent article by Greywar showing just how well off the "poor" in America actually are.
on Aug 02, 2007
Well it may not be fat that you can probably notice simply by looking but it does add some weight, but its mostly a combination of bone and muscle that can make you seem larger and overweight without that much fat.

Will the insurance companies use BMI or arbitrary weight tables to assess obesity? Just wondering, since I saw a weight chart saying that for my height (5' 11") I should weigh 165. Heh... I haven't been 165 since probably junior high school. Guess I'd be coughing up the extra $60 for a good long while.
on Aug 02, 2007
Will the insurance companies use BMI or arbitrary weight tables to assess obesity? Just wondering, since I saw a weight chart saying that for my height (5' 11") I should weigh 165. Heh... I haven't been 165 since probably junior high school. Guess I'd be coughing up the extra $60 for a good long while.


lol, I am 215 right now, I am way off. It would take a miracle and a lot of nasty tasting food to get me to 165 and stay there.
on Aug 06, 2007
I am 8 lbs overweight, but I have a 36G chest (lactating, haha). Wonder if they would take that into account? I'm pretty sure my boobs weigh at least 8 lbs.

36G?!?!?!?! Goodness gracious. Your husband must be so pleased.
on Aug 06, 2007
They can't afford to exercise.


Actually, when I was poorest, I was fittest. Why? Well, a lot of beans and rice, and I walked everywhere I went. When my wife and I were dating, I used to walk 3 or 4 miles to her house every day.

Better than a gym membership, if you ask me.
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